The One-Sided Usage of Hate Mongering Terminology

Two Wrongs won’t make it Right but will make it Consistent

Gone with the previous administration are those coined, frequently used and misused, nauseating, and of course widely popularized by the media, phrases and terminologies such as Evil Doers and Axis of Evil. Yet, it hasn’t been the end of others, those geared to stereotype, misguide, and promote uninformed hatred. The latest with the Fort Hood Shooting has done just that: provide opportunity for those in the business of disseminating and breeding hatred and bigotry, who do so selectively and for the purpose of serving hidden agendas. Yes, I’m referring to the previously used and now again fashionable ignorant and nauseating term Islamo-Fascism.

My focus in this piece is not going to be the wrongness, the damaging, and the pure propaganda-making nature of the term, all of which it certainly is; some have covered this already and others are still doing it; my hat is off to them. I also don’t intend to dwell upon the notion of political correctness, since in some cases it is misused, goes way too far, and acts as hidden agenda-driven censorship. Instead, I’m going to concentrate on the propaganda machine’s selectivity when it comes to pairing up religion or nations with the word fascism, and have us all question the motives for and consequences of doing this.

Let me begin with a personal, in fact a very personal, story:

It was a breezy early spring evening in Tehran, in 1982. I was standing outside a very popular pizzeria with my mother and 8 year old sister, waiting for my dad who was inside, standing in line for our takeout pizza. While my mother was covered head to toe in compliance with the new Iranian regime’s dress code, I was loosely wearing a fashionable shawl which was covering my hair partially; call it the prelude to a soon-to-come teenage fashion consciousness, or defiance, or maybe even pure stupidity.

MuslimWomen As we were standing and people watching a charcoal grey Range Rover with shaded glass came to a screeching halt right before us. We didn’t have to guess its occupants, since the regime’s police, known as ‘pasdaran’, were known to drive those vehicles, monitor the public outside for their compliance of dress code and behaviors, and arrest, jail, and punish the deviants. Four car doors opened at the same time, one of their modus operandi, practiced and perfected synchronization. Four bearded men in civilian clothes came out and surrounded us. One of them, the one in charge, stepped forward and motioned me to step forward, and said, ‘this is no way to dress for an honorable Muslim girl.’ My mother, whose face had turned chalky white, began pleading with the man - who pretended he was not hearing any of her words. He ordered me to get inside the car.

My father, who’d noticed the commotion from inside the pizzeria, stepped out, quickly walked to where we were standing, positioned himself right in between me and the pasdar in charge, and went on the offensive. First, he asked them to produce identification since they were clad in civilian clothes. The pasdar in charge obliged, and took out not one, but three official ID cards. Next, my father told them my age and that they had no right or justification to treat a child that way. The man in charge argued the opposite, and repeated his order for me to get inside the car. At this point, my father pulled out his ID cards, and told them who he was: the surgeon in charge of one of the largest hospitals, where many wounded and burned Iranian soldiers in the Iran-Iraq war were being treated. My father pointed his finger at the guy in charge and said, ‘You take her away, and I will make sure your comrades are taken care of just the same way; you catch my drift?’…

I won’t bore you with too many details, but suffice to say, amazingly, my dad’s offense worked. We were let go. But that was not the end of the story for me and my family. It was the beginning of a tumultuous journey to escape, to leave everything behind-savings, houses, cars…even photos, and go back to Turkey.

During that period my family used the word ‘fascism’ quite often. We referred to the pasdaran as the regime’s Gestapo and fascists. Even years after our migration our bitter first-hand experiences were thought of and articulated with that word: fascism. That said and admitted to, we never paired up, either in our thought processes or expressions, those fascistic practices with either the religion, in this case Islam, or the nationality, the Persians. My parents were what many coin Agnostic; we did not practice any religious rituals, nor did we follow any particular set of rules tied to a particular religion. That didn’t apply to my grandparents and the majority of our friends and neighbors, who were Muslims. Therefore we knew enough, had experience and knowledge enough, to know that what was done to us, what we experienced and escaped from, had nothing to do with religion; nothing whatsoever. The same principle applied to nationality. For us the phrase fascism applied to practices adopted by certain people or group(s) who happened to use religion (in our case ‘Islam’) to gain and maintain control and power - as simple as that.

This same general context can be expanded to include other fascistic practices throughout modern history. Hitler’s Germany certainly was a fascist regime, but it wasn’t called Germano-Fascism. Likewise Mussolini’s Italy was not labeled Italio-Fascism. Same with Stalin’s Russia and …Fascists use and exploit religion and or nationalism. They distort, manipulate, and misuse these pulse points to achieve their objectives: power and control.

TalibanBack to the hatred-breeding and selectively generalized term Islamo-Fascism. Whether it is Bin Laden and company, or the current Islamic Regime in Iran, or the Taliban, we are looking at the same phenomenon: the use of Islam to manipulate, gain control, expand, install fear, terrorize, exercise power…In almost all of these examples the manipulation starts with targeting the uneducated, uninformed, and underprivileged, which unfortunately constitutes the majority in third world nations.

Now, how about the educated elites with positions within the media and other channels of communications here in our country? What is their sorry excuse for crafting and disseminating this generalized and misguiding terminology, this propaganda, to elicit furor, misplaced anger and hatred, and increased bigotry?

The decision to use, package, and disseminate this lately popularized term, Islamo-Fascists, appears to be done consciously, and in a calculative way. Because let’s face it, if it were the fascism aspect of these practices and the used vehicle, the specific religion or nation, justifying and leading to the usage of the terminology, then why be so very consistently selective? Why depict the radicalization of Islam, but not other religions, as deploying and exercising fascism. Here is what I mean:

Is This a Case of Zionism Gone Fascism?

Here are a few excerpts from a fairly recent article exemplifying fascistic practices by a powerful group of Zionists in Israel and the US:

Right-wing groups in Israel want to create a climate of fear among left-wing scholars at Israeli universities by emulating the "witch-hunt" tactics of the U.S. academic monitoring group Campus Watch, Israeli professors warn. The watchdog groups IsraCampus and Israel Academia Monitor are believed to be stepping up their campaigns after the recent publication in a U.S. newspaper of an Israeli professor’s call to boycott Israel.

Both groups have been alerting the universities’ external donors, mostly U.S. Jews, to what they describe as "subversive" professors as a way to bring pressure to bear on university administrations to sanction faculty staff who are critical of Israeli policies.

This is how an Israeli Professor describes the practice:

"I have no hesitation in calling this a McCarthyite campaign," said David Newman, a politics professor at Ben Gurion University, in Israel’s southern city of Beersheva. "What they are doing is very dangerous."

And here is how another Israeli Professor puts it:

"The goal is to transform our students into spies in the classroom to gather information and intimidate us," a senior Israeli lecturer said. "It’s a model of ‘policing’ faculty staff that has been very successful in stifling academic freedom in the U.S."

The powerful Zionist group with ‘McCarthyism’ practices has been successfully operating in the United States, and has done so with 100% immunity and the lack of real exposure thanks to the selective US media, when it comes to reporting fascistic practices:

Both Israel Academia Monitor, established in 2004, and the later IsraCampus model themselves on Campus Watch, a U.S. organization founded by Daniel Pipes, an academic closely identified with the U.S. neoconservative movement.

Campus Watch has been widely accused of intimidating U.S. scholars who have expressed views critical of U.S. and Israeli policies in the Middle East. The organization’s goal, according to critics, is to pressure U.S. universities to avoid hiring left-wing lecturers or awarding them tenure.

I strongly urge you to take the time and read this article. This is one of many practices by Zionist groups and related lobbies and organizations. Almost none of them get the deserved media coverage to shed light on Zionist practices that are either pure fascistic by any rational standards or border on fascistic by irrationally tolerant standards. Can you point me to articles and analysis in the US media where these culprits are coined and identified as Ziono-Fascists?

Here are two excerpts from a well-written and argued editorial on the Israeli political system and Lieberman’s rhetoric:

Jefferson thought any state could only derive conditional loyalty from its subjects, if it served them faithfully. Lieberman inverts this. The state should not serve the people. The state is inherently legitimate, and if the people disagree, they are disloyal, and should be punished for it. Whether or not such state worship is a sufficient condition for a political ideology to qualify as fascist, it is certainly a necessary condition. Lieberman also wants to strip the Palestinians of citizenship, and hopefully expel them too. Indeed, Israeli professor Neve Gordon suspects it is a matter of time until Jewish leftists are also accused of disloyalty and stripped of their citizenship. Lieberman combines his intolerance of dissent with his overriding imperative – to create a Jewish state as ethnically pure as possible. Let us also not forget his disturbing glorification of the military. He has said that the Gaza war would have been successful, but the valiant soldiers were betrayed by a cowardly civilian leadership. Who can fail to notice the historical echoes?

If you consider Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, Israel is an Apartheid state. It rules over these territories, but has not enfranchised their populations, and has even granted full citizenship rights only to the Jews who reside within the West Bank. Indeed, the Jews who live on colonies in the West Bank taking Palestinian land have roads built for their benefit, which the Palestinians in the West Bank cannot travel on…

IsraeliSettlersDoes the current status of Israel’s politics reflect the characteristics mostly found in fascism? The writer in this article seems to make his points based on the reality on the ground and undisputed facts:

One can expect little else from the Israeli mainstream, blinded as it is by decades of indoctrination and vested interests, or from Israel’s President Peres, whose political lexicon never included the T of Truth. But the world should be warned. Unlike Lebanon or Iran, Israel has not moved a single step forward in the Obama Era. On the contrary: With the rogue triumvirate of Netanyahu, Barak, and Lieberman, Israel is now ruled by the most nationalist, racist, and fanatical government it has ever had. On top of that, the main opposition party, led by the ultra-nationalist Livni and the opportunistic professional soldier Mofaz, offers yet another duplicate of the government’s narrative, so that the ever narrower public discourse is framed by two ideological and political twins, offering no alternative whatsoever. In fact, the Israeli far Right has now more than 80 percent of the seats in the Knesset – the rest being the Arab parties, Meretz, and a dubious dissenting faction within Labor. Thus the Israeli media consumer is not even exposed to anything but nationalist at best, racist at worst, anti-Palestinian, anti-peace, pro-occupation brainwashing.

The flow of laws and regulations against Israeli Arabs increased exponentially. A year ago, a forgotten British Mandate regulation from 1939, banning the import of books printed in enemy countries, was suddenly revived, closing the import gates on Arabic schoolbooks and all kinds of literature printed in Lebanon (a major publishing center in Arabic) and other Arab countries. No security issues are at stake: all imported books are subject to censorship anyway.

Netanyahu’s speech is just the tip of the iceberg. The war against the Israeli Palestinians is much wider than that. It is felt in the judicial system, where for example a Jewish farmer who shot Arab burglars in the back while they were fleeing from his farm, killing one and wounding another, was acquitted (and is now celebrated as a national hero). As Orly Noy writes (YNet, in Hebrew), "given the judicial and public atmosphere in Israel these days, nothing is more predictable than the acquittal of a Jew who exercised violence, even extreme, against an Arab citizen." In another case, a Jewish man who murdered a taxi driver just because he was Arab was deemed "unfit to face trial." A senior army officer who ordered his soldier to shoot a handcuffed, blindfolded Palestinian at point-blank range was merely accused of "improper conduct." This accusation was found unreasonable even by the Israeli Supreme Court.

Let’s rewind and visit how these same Israeli practices were viewed and deservedly criticized by respect-worthy and highly regarded people more than six decades ago. I don’t think anyone reading this article can label or accuse Albert Einstein of Anti-Semitism or bias, so here he is, in his own words:

Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

A Shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants? 240men, women, and children - and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.

Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.

Please read the entire letter, and marvel at the irony. If our agenda-driven media truly (but wrongly) believes in religion-driven fascistic practices, then let’s have them cover all these practices the same way and consistently. Because based on their standards this would certainly qualify to be termed Ziono-Fascism.

As I’ve said neither the horrendous records on Human Rights Abuses, nor war crimes, nor censorship, nor discrimination, nor assaults on free speech in Israel and abroad… is enough or grounds for the US mainstream media to use their beloved fascism word in conjunction with the nation, in this case Israel, or, religion, in this case extremist radical Zionists.

What happens when rarely some of these practices make their way into the US press? Well, the internet is your world so when you get a chance check out a few. I can assure you that you won’t find a single phrase like ‘Judeo-Fascism’ or ‘Ziono-Fascism’ or anything related to fascism, any derivation of the word fascism, being paired up with Israeli Zionists’ anti-democratic, anti-free speech, anti-humanitarian practices.

Why is that? Why the conscious and careful selectivity? Don’t get me wrong here. I truly despise seeing any nationality or religion being paired up with the term fascism for the purpose of creating perceptions based on stereotyping and bringing about hate-mongering. My first response and objective is to try to get these writers and speakers of the propaganda machine to stop it; period. When that proves to be futile, when they go on doing what they are doing, then, I ask them to at least be consistent. In this case the two wrongs won’t make it right, but at least it will make it consistent.
 

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  1. Okay… here is how I have been defining “Islamofascism” on Issuepedia. In short: “Islamofascism is a form of religious extremism in which the faith of Islam is abusively used as a cover for a totalitarian ideology, especially fascism.” Note the careful wording: Islamofascism is not Islam; it is using Islam as a cover for something else (i.e. a form of fascism).

    That page is open for editing, and I welcome suggestions for additional comments (please post on the “discussion” page if you’re not sure what is appropriate). I do state on that page that “Islamofascism” may (or may not) be essentially synonymous with “Islamic fundamentalism”; I also welcome any comments on that thought.

    Please note that I have seen other hyphenated -fascisms; the only one which comes to mind right now is “Christofascism” (“…a form of religious extremism in which Christian beliefs are misrepresented as being supportive of an ideology which is essentially fascistic or at least intensely authoritarian”), but there are probably others. (“Zionofascism” certainly seems like a strong contender.)

    It makes sense to me that Hitlerian Fascism is usually referred to as just “Fascism”, no qualifier, because to most people it is the original example — the defining prototype.

    All that said… your point about “Islamofascism” being a propaganda label, guilt-by-word-association, is well-taken, and I probably need to make note of this fact on that page. (You certainly won’t see “Christofascism” in the mainstream media.) Guilt-by-word-association is a common fear-mongering tactic, especially on the Right (“tax-and-spend liberal”, “welfare queen”, “homosexual agenda”, etc.) and at some point I need to create a page about that phenomenon as well.

    (P.S. My apologies if the HTML I used doesn’t work; I can’t remember if this system allows it or not, and there’s no “preview” button.)

  2. While I’m sorry that the Israel/Palestine conflict goes on, what really bugs me about this? The currently pointless “debates” that the MSM loves to hype.

    It’s always the screaming heads format. A producer may tell a guest, even if you agree with the other person, scream back at him! The audience loves that!

    What does the Israeli “spokesman” do every single time. Almost always it’s either someone from the Foreign Ministry. Or some right-wing professor or “Middle East Expert” speaking in Foreign Ministry talking points.

    There’s no rational discussion about facts. At times it sinks down to little kids arguing. Even some shows like Democracy Now are resorting to this.

    A question. Overall, what does this accomplish? If you’re the Israeli spokesperson and you really want your point of view to be heard, what good do talking points do? None whatsover. Having an attitude of everyone-else-is-our-enemy does nothing.

    But obviously they could care less. AIPAC has incredible power and flexes it every chance they get. No American politician in their right mind would dare to criticize Israel. Also, the Isareli media machine is always betting on many Americans ignorance of the area and the parties involved to manipulate them.

    Yes, you could say that everybody does it. So shut up and get over it. But that’s not the point.

    One time, I’m curious to see what would happen if there was an actual factual debate about this. Then again, outside of this site, not much chance of that.

  3. Thanks for reminding me why I’m a Leftist, Sibel.

    “Jefferson thought any state could only derive conditional loyalty from its subjects, if it served them faithfully. Lieberman inverts this. The state should not serve the people. The state is inherently legitimate, and if the people disagree, they are disloyal, and should be punished for it.”

    Seriously, did this guy read the Turkish constitution, the one written by pashas in the same year you were being harassed by pasdars in Tehran?

    Somewhat related: Last year a bunch of us went down to Cizre to see the sights and eat lahmacun. One of my sisters-in-law was shocked by the number of black abayas we saw on many of the women there. In fact, it was a lot more than what I saw there the last time I passed through town in 2005. Later in last year’s trip, another bunch of us went to Van, which was filled with Iranians, none of whom wore anything close to an abaya or even so much as a hijab. We spoke with some of them as they spoke no Turkish but did speak English and it seems that most of them were visiting from Tehran.

    Woozle, as for “Christofacism”, I prefer to call such types “Christian jihadis”. It just seems to fit, especially after reading some of the stuff Jeff Sharlett and Mikey Weinstein have written. You could probably adopt the term “Zionist jihadis” and it might work as well as “Zionofascism”.

  4. Thank you for a great article especially trenchant coming from one who lived under a fascist form of government. The irony for me is that the greatest use of the term “Islamo-Fascist” is being promulgated by our own, home-grown brand of Crypto-Fascists. I think our first duty here is to expose Fascism for what it is wherever it is. In that respect, there is no Islamo-fascism or Ziono-Fascism, or Christo-fascism or Socio-Fascism. There is ONLY Fascism. I refer you to Naomi Wolf’s article describing the 10 steps to Fascism:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment

    What I see is a triangular effort to pick the mote from the other’s eye while being blind to the beam in our own. Each of these movements, in Iran, in Israel and the USA are fascist movements. All seek to make the “official enemy” less than human to justify the murder in their own hearts. All are propagated and controlled by a secret elite who both fan the flames of intolerance while profiting from the conflict they create. All use the perceived injustice of a minority to inflict a greater injustice against the majority.

    Our further duty is to confront Fascism in ALL it’s forms. We do that by reminding people that our shared experiences and personal goals are greater than the experiences that divide us. So it is of equally paramount importance to me to assist and support true liberty and freedom wherever I find it. I always remember Ghandi’s work to remind us all of our shared experience and confront tyranny everywhere.

    So here’s an appropriate Bruce Cockburn tune to buttress my argument. Justice:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsGZ_cpTDBA

    “What’s been done in the name of Jesus?
    What’s been done in the name of Buddha?
    What’s been done in the name of Islam?
    What’s been done in the name of man?
    What’s been done in the name of liberation?
    And in the name of civilization?
    And in the name of race?
    And in the name of peace?

    Everybody
    Loves to see
    Justice done
    On somebody else

    Can you tell me how much bleeding
    It takes to fill a word with meaning?
    And how much, how much death
    It takes to give a slogan breath?
    And how much, how much, how much flame
    Gives light to a name
    For the hollow darkness
    In which nations dress?

    Everybody
    Loves to see
    Justice done
    On somebody else

    Everybody’s seen the things they’ve seen
    We all have to live with what we’ve been
    When they say charity begins at home
    They’re not just talking about a toilet and a telephone
    Got to search the silence of the soul’s wild places
    For a voice that can cross the spaces
    These definitions that we love create —
    These names for heaven, hero, tribe and state

    Everybody
    Loves to see
    Justice done
    On somebody else”

  5. @Ishmael: Well-said, Ishmael. I’ll add to your list: the need to expose hypocrite media and their calculatively selective propoganda.

    @Mizgin: You get to see similar ones (I am told it keeps increasing)even in Istanbul. Do you think it is correlated to ‘imposed secularism,’ as an act of defiance? It started in Istanbul when I was in high school (Imam Hatip okullari)and mushroomed from there…

  6. Yes, Sibel, I think the wearing of turban in Turkey has become something of a political act of defiance along the lines of telling someone they can’t do something makes them want to do it. Same deal with Iranian women who want to shed all their imposed covering when they get the chance.

    What is interesting is that the older Chaldean Christian women in Ainkawa (now a suburb) of Hewler (Irbil) also wear head scarves. They are tied up differently, but it’s virtually the same thing and maybe the same idea is behind their use of the scarf. And there are Armenian women in South Kurdistan who wear their head scarves like the Chaldean women do.

    Istanbul, yeah, it’s thick these days with those AKP-style turbanlar tied tight around the neck, and they wear what look like over-sized raincoats to complete the ensemble.

    So stylish.

  7. This violence is like the tip of a lightning rod. That is what my parents would tell me when I was young. No lightning to wash my flesh just surrounding water for the plants. People hold these lightning rods up in the light of day like trophies to seduce you. When the storms come the lightning rod goes right back where they found it.

  8. There were about 10 articles I’d like to have linked to here to help familiarize people with the face of Zio-fascism but I decided to restrain myself. But you really should read this. This site provides the best round up of news on the Israel/Palestine conflict. After just one look you can’t help but be sickened.

    I grew up in a Christian Zionist family here in the US. Once I mentioned to my dad a case where it seemed to me Israel could have exercised more caution in it use of deadly force in some incident and I asked if he didn’t think they had been wrong. His reply was, “The Israelis can kill as many Palestinians as they want. God gave that land to them and if the Palestinians refuse to give it up for the Jews then they are defying God.” As a child support of Israel, though not a major part of my religious up-bringing, was presented to me as a religious duty. For an example of one way Zionism has influenced Christian beliefs read this article. But, be aware that Zionist beliefs in Christianity go back probably to at least the 1500’s, gaining a lot of ground in 1800’s. This is one of the main sources of the ridiculous ‘unbreakable bonds’ between the US and its parasite nation. That’s what makes this probably the thorniest issue in the world because this is where the three main religions meet and compete, this goes to the heart of Judaism and Christianity both in terms of their eschatological beliefs and Islam is drawn in too because of Jerusalem and because most Palestinians are Muslim. If you see this in the context of the drive to convert Afghanis that was exposed in the military not too long ago, Eric Prince’s desire to go kill Muslims, the Family, and lot’s of other similar things it’s really scary. And then there’s the fact that there are actually some Christians these days who see it as their duty to try to bring about the apocalypse, which they believe will happen when Muslim nations attack Israel.

    Did anyone else notice that our own Lieberman (infinitely more insidious than the Israeli Lieberman) was one of the first to call the Fort Hood incident ‘terrorism’. He couldn’t wait to raise the specter of the evil Muslims. But there have been other soldiers who shot their compatriots, what makes this incident a terrorist incident? Ridiculous.

  9. By your definition, the Bush regime was fascist to the core. There was not one act that they did which was not designed to perpetuate their own power and control or that of their friends. Using the cover of 9/11 and the anthrax attacks, they coined the term “war on terror” and the racial implications towards Arabs and Muslims which followed. They then used this “war on terror” as a pretext to mold the dimwitted and spineless into allowing them to plunder our national treasure by providing Bushco a nice chunk of the trillion dollars or so spent on pretend wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. It was this “war on terror” that Bushco used as a pretext to gut the very Constitutional safeguards which would have stopped them from such lunacy. It was this “war on terror” that served as the rallying cry to fight terrorists, extremists and insurgents and was the pretext that unified the masses, much the same as Hitler, Stalin and Begin used loyalty to the motherland as the basis for their breed of fascism. Those countries had their breed of fascism. We had ours. Based on Obama’s silly Afghanistan speech tonight, however, it looks like the worst elements of Bushco’s fascism haven’t left us quite yet.

  10. Konstantin says:

    Mizgin it’s a tradition for Orthodox Christian women, like the Chaldean and Armenian to wear head scarves. They do it in Greece and even in the US in many cities. Although it’s almost always the elderly older women. I don’t think it’s related to any political act of defiance.

  11. Konstantin says:

    By the way, the Internet Archive site has a PDF version of the Einstein letter that looks like it was scanned from the NYT.

    http://www.archive.org/details/AlbertEinsteinLetterToTheNewYorkTimes.December41948

  12. camusrebel says:

    Hi Sibel, Thanks for the great new site. I was “PeacefulWarrior” at other sites. You are spot on in your call for equity in the language we use. I would like to drift slightly off topic and mention the Fort Hood case.

    For several hours, all the cable channels were talking about multiple shooters. 2 were in custody. One dead. If you are reporting that 2 mass murderers are in custody it is because high level military told you that 2 mass murderers were in custody. As pathetic as our press is, they would not make up rumors or pass along heresay.

    Where did they go? Why has ALL MENTION of the other shooters been scrubbed from every “news” website???

    How does one shooter kill 13, wound 30 some, with 2 pistols. He would have had to stop and reload at least ten times. Surrounded by the world’s best trained killers. Come on. Nobody had a cell phone camera? No security video? No eyewitnesses can be interviewed.

    A usually reliable source tells me it was several soldiers pissed off at being sent back for a 4th or 5th tour. They were sick of killing innocent women and children and finally decided they had enough. They would kill no more innocents. But they would take some guilty down with them. Hasan is no kind of fascist. He is a Patsy, just like those 19 guys with the magical box cutters.

  13. Bill Bergman says:

    Great stuff, Sibel. The ‘two wrongs don’t make a right’ idea was tugging at me throughout the article, and there it is, showing up at the end. There’s a course being taught at the U. of Chicago’s Graham School of General Studies in the upcoming term on Fascism generally, and the flyer description of the course included a note at the end that the course would consider whether a term like Islamofascism had any worthy content. I was considering taking the course, but they are also offering an introduction to investigative journalism course, and my kids are offering further lessons in introductury parenting. Life is short and sweet.

  14. @Metem: Thank you for sharing this; it gives me a better understanding and more area to look in to. I know you are very busy with your thesis, but I want you to know: I’d love to publish your analysis/commentary; any time. So, this is an open invitation (the public one;-).

    @Camusrebel:And I remember you; good to have you back. Good point. I don’t have either antenna or cable, so I’ve been blessed (and saved) with not having to watch those clowns misreporting.

    @Bill: ‘Life is short & sweet’: I hear you, Bill. While I was standing in line at DMV (don’t even get me started with that, and having to live in such a congested area…soon, very soon, I’ll be happily parting with this sin city…), I was entering notes (to do items) into my organizer, and feeing the pain of eliminating great items just due to having so little time, and so many great things I want to do.

    By the way, after standing in line for a while I gave up and left (had to be back for my daughter’s lunch time). Meaning: I’m going there again today…I’ll leave it to you the guessing of the state of my mood…;-)

  15. camusrebel says:

    Israel is a fascist state. State terror,(Mossad)powerful world wide corporations tied to the state(2 that have contracts w/NSA to handle some “secret” wiretapping).

    What Islamist country has ANYTHING remotely similar to these things.

    How many Islamist countries have been caught bribing many in Congress?

    Spying on us with high level inside contacts. How many Islamist Larry Franklins are there? Marc Grossmans? Dougie Feiths? AIPACS? I don’t recall nominees from both major parties crawling to kiss the ring of any Islamist PAC.

    How many of our battleships have Islamist countries EVER destroyed, espc. when they were called an ally?]

    Fascism is just a word. The average American citizen has nothing to fear from any Muslim person on this globe, nor any Islamist nation. But we are infested with a vermin that threatens everything we hold dear. If it is not exterminated from our house soon, it will surely crumble.

  16. Kingfisher says:

    “But we are infested with a vermin that threatens everything we hold dear. If it is not exterminated from our house soon, it will surely crumble.”

    And there we have it, the percolating fascism of the anti-fascists.

  17. I really liked that article, thanks a lot. Your story reminded me of a scene in the animation movie “Persepolis–” it occurs to me that you might enjoy watching the movie not only because it is set in Iran in the same period that you describe, but because there is a scene in the movie a lot like what you described, with the girl’s father being aggressive to the bearded Iranian secret police. Einstein on the roots of a Nazi-like Israeli party was quite a source, wow! And the editorial about the fascist quality of “automatic state worship” really seems to explain the approach of the so-called Israeli lobby in several stories I’ve seen. I know this may be wistfully generalizing about history, but maybe faced with the horror of German fascism of the 1930s-40s, prominent state institutions in Israel still hold on to a hatred of the Nazis and “you become what you hate?”

  18. @Mike: The author (Persopolis’ and I lived in the same area (Tehran), during the same period, and belonged to the same group/circle. Reading her book was almost like reading my own diary…As for “you become what you hate?” that’s the ‘irony’ I mentioned/meant; excellent point. The abused becomes the abuser, and in many ways surpasses the original. At least that’s how I see/view it.Thank you for your well-presented comment.

  19. Muckraker33 says:

    The American MSM makes sure to ignore that the exact opposite of what happened in Iran to you as a child is happening still in Turkey. If I move to Turkey, I won’t be able to attend a university because I wear hijab. Police have forcibly removed the headscarves from Muslim ladies in public places. There is no good reason for this. But the people have spoken, and AKP holds the executive and a good portion of the legislative side of things, as I understand. There are still many Ergenekon Kemalist ultra-nationalists that continue their tyranny within the military, police force, and tribunals. I heard from a source that even Erdogan is beginning to discover that his own cabinet might be infiltrated by (I think it was Doenme if I am not mistaken.) There appears to be a distinct tie between these ultra-nationalist groups’ oppression and the festered uprisings of PKK. What exactly to make of it, I am not sure. But there appear to be key ultra-nationalist players with alleged connection to Ergenekon who are meeting with Ocalan. It seems to me that the same type of dividing oppressive movement that continues to reign tyranny upon Palestinians may also be stirring up the Kurdish resistance. Just a hunch for now….

  20. camusrebel says:

    Kingfisher, there you have it, percolating stupidity denying reality from an anti-realist.

    Kingfisher do you agree Congress is “occupied Territory”?

    Or do you work for the occupiers? Evil cannot own all the media, call itself good and thereby become good. Sorry.

  21. Kingfisher says:

    “Kingfisher do you agree Congress is “occupied Territory”?”
    Congress is occupied by whores.

    “Or do you work for the occupiers? Evil cannot own all the media, call itself good and thereby become good. Sorry.”
    You sound just like a fascist.

  22. camusrebel says:

    Out of respect for Sibel and the pure class she has shown in over 6 years of public bravery, I would like to apologize for my part in lessening the level of discoure on this site. It usually is an oasis of well mannered, thoughtful, informative views. For slipping under that threshold I am sorry.

    But, here we are. Kingfisher, you sound like someone who cheered when Rachel Corrie was crushed to death by a bull dozer. And like someone who might have been among the 5 guys dancing w/joy while filming the twin towers being blown to hell. You know, the Urban Moving van. The one the police pulled over and found traces of explosives. Or do you just coincidentally live near “terrorists” and sell artwork? Again, Sibel, please forgive my breif foray into the mud.

  23. @camusrebel: No need for apology. Point articulated well and reasonably. Did you read the great piece by Chris Ketchum (?) on this topic? He is another good reporter; independent, and objective. I don’t know what happened to him…I haven’t seen any work/articles by him in a while.

  24. Kingfisher says:

    “But, here we are. Kingfisher, you sound like someone who cheered when Rachel Corrie was crushed to death by a bull dozer. And like someone who might have been among the 5 guys dancing w/joy while filming the twin towers being blown to hell. You know, the Urban Moving van. The one the police pulled over and found traces of explosives. Or do you just coincidentally live near “terrorists” and sell artwork?”
    Don’t be coy; ask me if I am a Jew or not.

    “…someone who cheered when Rachel Corrie was crushed to death by a bull dozer.”
    Whatever sympathy I may have for Rachel Corrie is lost on the stupidity of her actions.

    But seriously dude, are you not even aware of the fascist overtones to your Jew-baiting here?

  25. Kingfisher says:

    @Muckraker33,
    Interesting post, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I would like to know what Mizgin thinks.

  26. camusrebel says:

    I don’t care what you are KF. You could be a shape shifting reptillian.
    You said I sounded like a fascist, so I responded by saying what you sounded like. The state of Israel is a mistake. It is behind much of what’s wrong in our country and the world. Obviously you disagree with that. Fine. So does George Bush, Dick Cheney and a flock of others that would not be called a “Jew”(YOUR term).

    I’m not baiting at all. I’m coming straight out and saying the Mossad/Likud/Marc Grossman sect are a cancer that needs to be eradicated.
    If it is stupid to protest the wanton destruction of poor olive farmers modest dwellings that have been in the family for countless generations, we as a species need much, much more such stupidity.
    Who cares if you are slime or work for slime.
    REMEMBER RACHEL! REMEMBER THE LIBERTY! REMEMBER THE 5 DANCING ISRAELIS!

  27. Muckraker33 says:

    Sorry, KF, but I am probably the most anti-Israel person on this site. Those who banned the hijab are the ultra-nationalist Zionist Kemalists who have been “de-Islamifying” Turkey. These are the same cronies that I suspect are involved in the heroin trade and who are trying to stir up the problems with PKK and Azerbaijan. Ergenekon, CHP, et al still have the military, tribunals and police force. These are the perpetrators we keep hearing about, and while some may be or appear to be true to issues such as Palestine and human rights, many are undercover turncoats (Doenme) I am glad that AKP is starting to do what desperately needs to be done in the USA–take out the garbage!

  28. Muckraker33 says:

    As for your comment, KF, about Rachel Corrie….I will just let that one hang in the air like a stale fart so you can watch everyone look to you in utter disgust.

  29. Kingfisher says:

    “Obviously you disagree with that.”
    Actually I share some of your sentiment. My problem is with your conduct and rhetoric; in your anti-fascist struggle you have begun to mirror-image the fascists themselves. This is a frequently occurring phenomenon in conflicts; especially when one party derives much of their identity from their opposition to the other (anti-fascists) – which is evident in your screen-name.

    “If it is stupid to protest the wanton destruction of poor olive farmers modest dwellings that have been in the family for countless generations, we as a species need much, much more such stupidity.”
    Protesting is one thing, playing chicken with an IDF bulldozer is another. Don’t worry, our species has no shortage in stupidity.

  30. camusrebel says:

    Thank you Kingfisher, that was refreshing. A sense of moderation prevails. I am not always proud of my “conduct and rhetoric” when my emotions kick in.

    We can step back from the brink. We do not have to devolve into childish name calling. We can recognize where we agree and calmly analyze the exact point(and why) we begin to disagree. Nicely done.

    We must be careful using the “mirror-image of your enemy” canard. When a person of the jewish faith describes someone as a Nazi, their point is to paint said person as the most vile creature imaginable. But clearly the state of Israel would never have been carved out of Palestinian land in 1948 if the Nazi’s hadn’t did what they did. Were some wealthy Jewish interests complicit in financing Hitler’s rise? My studies indicate a strong possibilty. Why would they do such a thing? Is the infamous 6 million figure way overblown? Many serious scholars concur. Am I saying the holocaust did not happen? No. Am I saying it was all planned to sucker/shame the rest of the world into going along with rabid Zionism. Yes, I am. From evil origins nothing good can come.

  31. Kingfisher says:

    “Why would they do such a thing? Is the infamous 6 million figure way overblown? Many serious scholars concur. Am I saying the holocaust did not happen? No. Am I saying it was all planned to sucker/shame the rest of the world into going along with rabid Zionism.”

    I have some familiarity with alternative histories of the Holocaust (more than most people at least), like the work at the conferences Ahmadinejad has sponsored. Ahmadinejad and his scholars, if they were being truthful they would not call it serious scholarly work.

    Their line of thinking goes:
    1.) the holocaust is the reason that allowed for the creation of Israel;
    2.) the creation of Israel and its subsequent occupation of Jerusalem is at the expense of Muslims who were not responsible for the holocaust;
    3.) therefore by revising or denying the holocaust, the argument for Israel’s occupation of Jerusalem can be undermined

    Call it tactical holocaust denial or revisionism if you will. They are not being literal. I don’t agree with it, but I get it.

    So my question for you is do you literally believe this stuff?

  32. camusrebel says:

    Ahmadinejad did not invent the practice of questioning the holocaust. Before he died in 1955, Albert Einstein had some questions of his own. Throughout the 60’s, 70’s up till today many Western, Christian, white men have done much research to show the 6 million number is “wishful thinking” on the Zionists part.

    But personally, I like Mahmoud. He is a teacher, like me. He seems to be a genuinely good person. Honest, funny, and very smart. His land of Persia is one of the proudest, oldest on the planet and I respect the man a great deal reaching his position at a fairly young age. Your attempt to parrot the lame stream media’s attempt to portray him as some kind of monster is silly, ineffective and telling.

    Do I literally believe this stuff?1.) To repeat myself, yes

    2.)Who else’s expense(why not take a slice of the Rhineland)

    3.) Not undermined, completely demolished. It is an illegal entity and should be dissolved ASAP by the UN just as the UN created it, but in reverse.

    As a huge Einstein fan (he was for one world government by and for the people) I know he left Germany in 1934, because it was getting so bad for Jews by then. Others had left previously. In’35 even more left. Still more in ’36. By ’37 it was if you can possibly get out, GET THE FUCK OUT NOW! Everyone who could afford to leave was long gone by 1938. By the times the trains started rolling, only the dirt poor and the physically and mentally unfit jewish folk were left in the ghettos. It’s called culling the heard. Who left? The ones who are so coldhearted they can sacrifice thousands of their brethren for the opportunity to steal another’s land. Hello Ariel Sharon, Bibi, Skeletor’s Mom, Rahmbo’s dad,
    just following protocol. And as is often the result from too much inbreeding, insanity ensues.

  33. camusrebel says:

    Of course I did not mean to imply that everyone who left is implicated in the crimes of the few.

    Before any of you(i’m lookin’ at you KF)start throwing arounf the anti-semite mud………….my hero is Robert Zimmerman

    Be the Peace You Want To See

  34. Kingfisher says:

    “Ahmadinejad did not invent the practice of questioning the holocaust.”
    Didn’t say he did. His argument is just the best example I am familiar with.

    “Your attempt to parrot the lame stream media’s attempt to portray him as some kind of monster is silly, ineffective and telling.”
    Wasn’t parroting anything or portraying him as anything; I explained his argument and tactics – he has a reason to his way (which I described) that the media does not explain. If anything explaining this paints Ahmadinejad as a more rational actor.

    “Do I literally believe this stuff?1.) To repeat myself, yes”
    Ahmadinejad doesn’t

    “But personally, I like Mahmoud. He is a teacher, like me.”
    He was Pasdaran long before he was a teacher.

    “By the times the trains started rolling, only the dirt poor and the physically and mentally unfit jewish folk were left in the ghettos. It’s called culling the heard.”
    With such eugenics in mind; would you agree that Rachel Corrie standing in front of an IDF bull dozer and getting plowed strengthens the gene pool?

    “Before any of you(i’m lookin’ at you KF)start throwing arounf the anti-semite mud”
    Don’t care much for the term, it is used ad-nauseam and employing it is a cliché. I will however note your lingering persecution complex and witch hunts as a fascist tendency supporting my initial comment about fascism of the anti-fascists.

    “Be the Peace You Want To See”
    Today I didn’t even have to use my A.K., I got to say it was a good day. – “It Was A Good Day”, by Ice Cube

  35. ZicaTanka says:

    @KingFisher:
    It’s absolutely unreasonable to insult Ms. Carrie. Shame!

    As far as Ice Cube goes, I think you’re taking a leap into territory you will find unreasonable. You’ve now delved into the territory of Edit_Mommies. Maybe he will help you out. Please give him some candy afterwards, so he doesn’t reign hell fire down upon us all.

  36. camusrebel says:

    Ice cube started out in a group called NWA, rappers. That stood for niggers with attitude and was an early sign of the increasingly prevalent glorification of violence at the behest of the powers that were and are actually shaping our youth culture with malevolent intent.

    I teach at a charter school in urban DC. I see the results every day.
    But with proper education we will help everyone see where they should properly be directing their ire.

  37. Kingfisher says:

    “It’s absolutely unreasonable to insult Ms. Carrie. Shame!”
    @Zika,
    But saying the systematic slaughter of “dirt poor and the physically and mentally unfit jewish folk” was “culling the herd” isn’t insulting?

  38. Kingfisher says:

    “Ice cube started out in a group called NWA, rappers. That stood for niggers with attitude and was an early sign of the increasingly prevalent glorification of violence at the behest of the powers that were and are actually shaping our youth culture with malevolent intent.”
    Way to address absolutely none of substantive points in my comment.

    “But with proper education we will help everyone see where they should properly be directing their ire.”
    I find it odd that fascists are always consumed with indoctrination of the youth.

  39. Kingfisher says:

    “But with proper education we will help everyone see where they should properly be directing their ire.”
    A proper education should enable people to figure out where their ire should or shouldn’t be directed for themselves; and it absolutely should not be directed, shaped, or influenced by teachers in secondary education.

  40. camusrebel says:

    Ah, but who is shaping, influencing our youth now? Are they doing a good job, one that promises them a decent future?

    What percentage of high school kids do you think know the FBI was implicated in public court documents in the ’93 WTC bombing? Or about the Liberty being attacked by Israel? Or that a jury found the man who died in jail for the murder of MLK is innocent and that some branches of government were involved instead?

    Why did the CIA bring so much cheap cocaine into south central LA during the late 80’s that a crack epidemic began that ravages poor communitys to this day? Why is there a liquor store on every other corner in DC but very few jobs or job training programs? When our kids learn the truth, believe me, they will no longer be wasting their bullets on each other.

    If “culling the herd” is insulting to you, stop whining and explain why my take on history is faulty. Rachel Corrie had more integrity in her left pinkie-toenail than you could ever dreaming of even knowing, much less having.

    Your side is on top now. Violence is pandemic in our media. The youth have been made vulgar, stupid and uncaring. Things look bleak for peace and love on this globe. But after things get worse, they will get better. Good people FAR outnumber their opposite, they just need a little organizing, some truth through grassroots ownership of the media that will reverse decades of mind-numbing indoctrination that has them working against their own best interest and a clear view of their true enemy.

  41. Kingfisher says:

    “Ah, but who is shaping, influencing our youth now? Are they doing a good job, one that promises them a decent future?”
    Ire. You were talking about, and I was responding to the notion of directing, shaping, or influencing their ire.

    “What percentage of high school kids do you think know the FBI was implicated in public court documents in the ‘93 WTC bombing? Or about the Liberty being attacked by Israel? Or that a jury found the man who died in jail for the murder of MLK is innocent and that some branches of government were involved instead?”
    What part of basic secondary education don’t you understand? You need to be able to walk before you can run. Getting these kids to “walk” is challenging enough, and those performing this duty should find honor and purpose in and of itself without promoting their agenda or pursuing social visions.

    “If “culling the herd” is insulting to you, stop whining and explain why my take on history is faulty.”
    It’s not personally insulting to me, beside that was a personal question to my penpal Zika. You originally wrote:
    “By the times the trains started rolling, only the dirt poor and the physically and mentally unfit jewish folk were left in the ghettos. It’s called culling the heard.”
    Which in response, I asked:
    “With such eugenics in mind; would you agree that Rachel Corrie standing in front of an IDF bull dozer and getting plowed strengthens the gene pool?”
    You have yet to address this question.

    “Your side is on top now.”
    What side is that? The pro 1990’s rap music, and anti standing in front of bulldozer side? You are chasing ghosts again.

  42. camusrebel says:

    Your equating evil actions by wealthy Zionists in the late 1930’s(acts I neither condone nor barely stomach) with some inbred punk jew crushing a beautiful young women with a bull dozer because she refused to move is sickening. Would love to chat some more but my next class is about to enter. Peace. My “agenda” is truth.

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