Podcast Show #42

The Boiling Frogs Presents Dr. Aland Mizell

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Dr. Aland Mizell joins us to discuss the controversial Turkish Imam Fethullah Gulen and his rapidly expanding cult globally and here in the United States. He provides us with a rarely discussed biography of Gulen and his movement, the cult’s objective of reviving the Ottoman Empire’s glory and Gulen Missionaries expansion into Central Asia and further around the world. He talks about Imam Gulen’s charter school empire in the United States, operated under absolute secrecy, the Turkish Missionaries’ Lobbyists targeting US federal and state governments, Gulen’s CIA connections and historical joint operations, the connection between Gülen and the Unification church- aka the Moon-cult, the oath of secrecy taken by all Gulen cult members, and more. Also, in the second half of our show we are joined by Bill Thacket, a parent of one of Gulen Charter Schools' former students.

mizell Aland Mizell earned his master's degrees in political science and public administration and a doctorate in political science with an emphasis on politics and religion. Having lived and worked at an educational institution in Central Asia for nearly a decade he brings experiential evidence to his studies and initiatives. He reads and speaks several languages, adding to the breadth of his three-decades of research on Islam with a focus on the Gulen movement. He is the founder of Minority Care International (MCI), a nongovernmental organization with the mission of assisting deprived minorities, and serves as its president and CEO. Dr. Mizell is a frequent contributor to Kurdish Media, speaking on behalf of the Kurds, as well as presenting to the Kurdish American Youth Organization on the importance of education. For select samples of Dr. Mizell’s articles click here, here, and here.

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  1. ohohmrbill says:

    In all of these schools they claim the staff are Turkish Scholars. Which is hardly the case; in fact false advertisement. None of the Turkish staff even remotely has the education to be quailified as a scholar never the less some of the classes they are teaching. They deny any affiliation to any other Turkish charter school yet the staff transfers seamlessly from one school to the next state to state. Those that do come over on an H1-B visa by law get a prevailing wage. There American counter parts get paid 10 to 15,000 less a year. In Arizona Tom Horne has accepted a huge bribe to have a hands off to his own law in auditing teachers with accents (No child left behind act) and to Ethnic studies. (Turkish Olympiads and various other Turkocentric activites and clubs) Through behaviors and not words Tom HOrne is just another enabler to the Gulen cause. Jean Schmidt of Ohio is currently under the scope. Chad Cuasey of Arkinsaw got dinged and pretty much ruined his career. The Congressman of Indiana is now being scrutinised for climbing in bed with them. Texas lawmakers are deeply influanced by the Rumi Forum and other Gulen tagged lobbying groups to gain more money for there schools. The Gulen Harmony School of Political Science is under construction as we speak….I strongly urge that any politician who is caught going to these interfaith dinners, accepting gifts and free trips to notify the OEC. (Office of Congressional Ethics)

    http://oce.house.gov/public-input.html

    Mailing Address:
    Office of Congressional Ethics
    U.S. House of Representatives
    P.O. Box 895
    Washington, DC 20515-0895

    Office Address:
    Office of Congressional Ethics
    U.S. House of Representatives
    425 3rd Street, S.W.
    Suite 1110
    Washington, DC 20024

    Let it be known that any politcian who mingles with this group will get burned one way or the other.

  2. ohohmrbill says:

    This just in from CNN. Fethulla Gulen and his attacks on free speach and media in Tukey.

    From his home in exile on a farm in Pennsylvania, Gulen is the inspirational leader of an enormous network of schools and universities operating in more than 120 countries around the world. He speaks to his followers through a small empire of pro-Gulen newspapers, publication houses and TV stations in Turkey as well as over the internet. During his victory speech after winning a referendum on constitutional reform last year, Erdogan took care to thank his “friends across the ocean”…code-words for the Gulen movement.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/05/06/turkey.press.freedom/

    I would encourage all members of the press and media to write about Fethulla Gulen and his movement, any politician or business who deals with them all around the world !!

  3. ohohmrbill says:

    Fethullah Gulen’s Makara: Burn Books, Jail Journalists but Claim Seeking Peace
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MExIjzfm7Q&feature=related

    It is good to know there others out there who are willing to spread the word about the dangers of Fethulla Gulen.

  4. I am sorry to go off topic.

    I cannot but feel to relay the awful loop tape found in the DUST of this,

    that has Osama Bin Laden.,
    the sacrificial lamb,

    the Oswald of our time,

    served for the propaganda dinner.

    From the freezer, or FRESH cut from the chicken coup he had been held alive in for ten years it makes no difference.

    For the purpose,
    now served.
    onto the table of government.

    We know this for certain because Obama told us so.
    Shortly before attending ground zero commemoration.

    And If Pakistan Intelligence knew, then so did CIA.

    The malevolence of that only being surpassed by the dumping of his body like sea TRASH allowing the fuck you conspiracy gaming to begin.
    two bangs for the BUCK.

    what cold HEART is this.

  5. This piece(with the accompanying links to the writings of Mizell clarifies why the obsession with Gulen and company. Thank you.

    Mizell believes that Gulen has taken over Turkey and is poised to do the same in the USA. He also appears to be a strong advocated of Kurdish nationalism. I have yet to come across in his writing any mention of the role of zionism in subverting the political processes of either country.

    Indeed, it’s rather breathtaking to read a narrative which in place of every reference where the true enemy of cultural pluralism and social liberty can be factually implicated, simply substitutes the name of Gulen’s pseudo sufic cult in place of the zionist bully. That got me wondering, so I read a little more of Mizell’s stuff. I’d like to quote just one snippet of your guests’ thoughts here, so that there can be no confusion as to what is being supporting by giving him a platform.

    “God did not bless the Kurds, or Israel, with world favor; instead they are undeservingly condemned on this earth, but He blessed them with resilience and courage in the face of persecution. Why do Kurds not have a God who protects them? When Hamas, whom the Europeans and Americans consider terrorists, are killing many Israeli children without any warning, has Erdogan or leaders of other Muslim countries issued a statement condemning Hamas’s action?” http://www.kurdmedia.com/article.aspx?id=15346

    I’ve always tried to stay a little skeptical about the theory that the PKK is a tool of mossad, which uses the Kurdish insurrection as a lever of control over the Turks and the other area countries. But there is little to doubt now, having seen this open propaganda piece. Scary.

    And puzzling. The Salonikan sabbatean crushed the real sufi current of Anatolian tradition, in his drive to ‘secularize’ the country. His movement is well known to have the same rootstock as that weed which grew up so voraciously in the soils of Palestine to crush the pluralistic Christian-Muslim society which dwelt there peaceably for centuries. In the arid deserts left behind in both these parts of the former ottoman empire, what grow up in the place of authentic cultural tradition are grotesque caricatures like the movement under the microscope here…we know who to blame for that degeneration, yet you are serving the cause of the same mischievous manipulators by veiling those historical facts here?

    Why work to undo all of the great great investigative light that you have shone in the fetid underbelly of the golem by giving support to these zionist apologists here may I ask? Your loyal supporters deserve a response.

  6. FromTurkey says:

    Haha… The Gulen fans are bombing here and there, again!
    They are the “worst” you can come across to. They live through a fixation, in a dream about the golden age boys and girls taking over the world!!! Yep, they did quite a lot in Turkey.
    They brainwashed my own cousin and I had to take him to a shrink for 2 years!! He was so convinced that he will burn in hell if he does not do what he is asked for! He was only 12 god damn! He was ordered to spy on his classmates families!!! Their education level, their income, their connections. Than they picked him 4 friends among the classmates and gave him extra money to buy those 4 snacks, gifts, chocolates etc… He was ordered to be very friendly. Win their confidence. Ask them out to play football in order to make those 4 meet the “others” staying at the Fethullah Gülen’s mentions… He kept all these as “secrets” from his family, from US. You know why? He was damn afraid! We only realised when we found one book that he forgat to hide properly!! A Said-i Nursi book!!! So, please shut your mouths up as I cannot bear to hear one single word you are saying to support that brainwashing terorist. Taliban and Gulen has no difference, they “brainwash kids” with FEAR!!… One makes them bombs, and the other makes them INTELLIGENCE AGENTS, ready to take over the ruling of the whole world’s running, through FEAR!!!

  7. Should you care to wipe the foam from your mouth, and then reread what you appear to be responding to, I can ensure that you will encounter no “fan” of Gulen. Rather than respond to your rather rabid confidences of a personal nature, I shall be content to offer you my sincere condolences for the suffering you have apparently endured.

    If you are indeed “fromturkey” – that a reasoned and nuanced critique of the dubious substitution of gulen’s mischiefs for those greater crimes of the main enemy should provoke you to such paroxysms, I can only suggest that you gather yourself as best you can , then reacquaint yourself with the tolerant traditions of discourse of our Anatolian past. For my part, I am content to stand upon the humble aphorism of Karagoz, “May my transgressions be forgiven” should I have in some way unintentionally offended you.

    On the other hand, if this is just another NSA ‘sock puppet’ blathering, as is so often the case these days, I give you over to the inevitable retribution that you and all your tribe shall suffer soon, and reiterate my request to the owner for clarification as to why pathetic zionist propaganda is allowed to infest this site.

  8. FromTurkey says:

    @janissary
    Are you talking to me???
    I did not even read your prior post while I was writing mine :)))
    So, please, wipe your own foam from your mouth and stop being “this” offended. Namaste!!

  9. Indeed.
    my apology for any potential misunderstanding of your meaning was built in to my response – to what I can assure you is a rabid dialogue, but with whom it seems impossible to say! Exactly to whom are you directing this below quoted diatribe? …

    “So, please shut your mouths up as I cannot bear to hear one single word you are saying to support that brainwashing terorist.”

    I dearly hope that you are not playing into the hands of the anti-Muslim forces that seem to be coalescing here in the most mysterious manner… I have already offered condolences to you for the sufferings at the hands of pseudo sufis you may have experienced…hence, there is no quarrel, only a question. I share your concern for the children of our tomorrows. That’s what matters most now.

    But even in my most jaded imaginings, I cannot suppose that the offspring of a hero of the Persian resistance to hebraic hegemony will allow things to degenerate any further here without explanation! Once again I invoke the name of dear Benazir Bhutto in hope of penetrating the “fog of war” that seems to have invaded this site. Not much time is left to avoid the holocaust of our peoples at the hands of the cabbalist madmen. Peace be with you.

    [WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The poster sent us ‘0 which is not a hashcash value.

  10. Indeed. My apology for any potential misunderstanding of your meaning was built in to my response – to what I can assure you is a rabid dialogue, but with whom it seems impossible to say! Exactly to whom are you directing this below quoted diatribe? …

    “So, please shut your mouths up as I cannot bear to hear one single word you are saying to support that brainwashing terorist.”

    I dearly hope that you are not playing into the hands of the anti-Muslim forces that seem to be coalescing here in the most mysterious manner… I have already offered condolences to you for the sufferings at the hands of pseudo sufis you may have experienced…hence, there is no quarrel, only a question.

    But even in my most jaded imaginings, I cannot suppose that the offspring of a hero of the Persian resistance to hebraic hegemony will allow things to degenerate any further here without explanation! Once again I invoke the name of dear Benazir Bhutto in hope of penetrating the “fog of war” that seems to have invaded this site. Not much time is left to avoid the holocaust of our peoples at the hands of the cabbalist madmen.

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