Podcast Show #73

The Boiling Frogs Presents Shahid Buttar

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This is Part I of our interview series on the Makings of a Police State. For the entire interview series click HERE

Shahid Buttar joins us to discuss the continuous erosion of our civil liberties from illegal domestic surveillance to Guantanamo, NDAA and its discretionary detention provision authorizing the President to detain Americans accused by the government of supporting terrorism. Mr. Buttar talks about the many abuses committed by the unchecked Federal Bureau of Investigation, the extension of FBI Director Robert Mueller’s Term quietly and readily by Congress, its significance and troubling implications, the capacity of the FBI to be used for political purposes established since the Hoover days, the US media’s silence on this significant issue, and more!

SButtarShahid Buttar is the executive director of the Bill of Rights Defense Committee and the People’s Campaign for the Constitution (PCC). He received his J.D. from Stanford Law School in 2003, where he served as executive editor of the Stanford Environmental Law Journal and as Professor Lawrence Lessig’s teaching assistant for Constitutional Law. In addition to his work leading BORDC, Shahid serves on the advisory bodies of the Rights Working Group, the National Coalition to Protect Civil Freedoms, and the National Campaign to Restore Civil Rights. He also supports populist constitutionalism as a civil rights lawyer, independent columnist, community organizer, and hip-hop and electronica MC. In his creative capacities as a poet and musician, Mr. Buttar has performed around the world, co-founded several grassroots art and culture groups around the country, facilitated workshops for young people and emerging artists.

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  1. I think you all hit the nail on the head when in your discussion you suggested that people are indifferent to these developments because they believe the laws don’t effect them, and they have nothing to hide. Additionally, people literally depend on the corrupt system for their lives, and having to actually look at the level of corruption that is occurring just might be more existentially destabilizing than people can handle. Unfortunately, the pressure cooker is heating up, because “the family” just doesn’t want to sit down for an uncomfortable intervention.

    I think a discussion about why protected speech and detention should matter to average Americans could broaden out into a discussion about the disastrous and ONGOING consequences of government and corporate policies, like for example BP Deep water horizon, soil depletion, Guantanamo Bay torture, natural gas fracking, 100,000 plus civilians killed in the most recent incursion into Iraq, etc. This sets the framework as to why people need to be able to speak out without fear of harassment or retaliation, because the issues being discussed matter and effect real people around the world. It seems pretty basic, but based on Sibel’s comments and my own discussions with average people, it seems people actually believe that the problems in the world don’t effect them, when in fact they DO, and will increasingly effect them. 7 billion + people and increasingly disruptive technologies is going to make life more and more difficult.

    The combination of corporate media brainwashing, public school/religious indoctrination, and personal ego, is playing out. People’s individual lives and dramas appear to be somehow more central to current reality than the natural world or the corporate money masters and gov’t military establishment who seek to impose violent domination. The US was founded on wiping out Native Americans and enslaving blacks, and people get angry when you bring up these points, yet how many lives are we still destroying or threatening to destroy? The lessons of history have not been learned because Americans and our institutions do not contemplate them deeply. This has REAL implications today, in terms of how we as a society conduct ourselves, who we trust, what we prioritize, etc.

    I personally believe that whatever positive change can happen will be a longer process than we would like, as people will either have to hear the vital information of the alternative media from multiple sources in their lives, generating a sort of new multi data point reality matrix, or it will happen after a general upheaval and hard confrontation with a fully operational militarized police state.

    take care–

  2. @ Luke

    That may be the best post I have ever read on this site. Thanks.

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