De-Manufacturing Consent- Creating a Free Society Means Living as Free People

Guillermo Jimenez Presents John Bush

Guillermo Jimenez Presents John Bush
On this edition of De-Manufacturing Consent: Guillermo is joined by the Executive Director of the Center for Natural Living and host of Rise Up Radio, John Bush. We discuss John's latest project, "Sovereign Living," which aims at encouraging people to live in a manner that is not dependent on centralized authority or coercive institutions and demonstrates how it can be done. John explains why he's no longer interested in "political activism," and is instead working towards building communities through voluntary cooperation and achieving self-sufficiency in the areas of food, education, health and other basic needs.

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  1. I’ve heard that this reality show is REALLY popular in Libya. They know how horrible it is to have a centralized immoral coercive system and have only recently become sovereign.

    Personally, I can’t wait for Episode 13: How to Handle the Local Warlord with Voluntarism. It’s extremely realistic and entertaining. And I love the undercurrent of dropping out and giving up on useless political action. I hope every potential whistle blower gets to see it.

    Of course, I’m only saying this because I’m a public sector employee, protecting my own self-interest. I mean, what other kind of interest is there?


  2. arealjeffersonian says:


    Don’t you think you’re a little overboard here? Can’t you handle a different point of view with the same respect you would like to have given to your point of view? And as to your point of view, from your many comments on this site its clear that you believe in government as the best solution, and are very disparaging of alternate solutions – especially those with a libertarian view.

    But as to government as the ultimate solution, that was tried in the grand experiment of the 20th century – the USSR – which as we all know failed miserably. But consider what they had, the Soviets; no unemployment, universal medical care, universal education, no Nasty Corporations, no Mega Banks, no billionaires to siphon off wealth. So who to blame for the failure? Corporations -no; Banks – no; billionaires -no. Who then? The only source of power – Government.

    So Xicha, when you see and hear others who don’t want to go the way of the Soviets, who don’t want to be part of the new USSR – United States Socialist Republic, who want to try to find other solutions, as strange as they may seem to you – please try to give a little respect. Their solutions may in the long run be better than yours.


  3. arealjeffersonian,

    My view is the libertarian point of view.

    Do you think liberty is a public interest?

    Do you think there is such a thing as a public?

    Do you think that “We the Poeople are in check and it’s OUR move?”

    Do you think that government is a tool, wielded by people, or is it an evil monster, like those pesky guns that keep killing our school children?

    I have been trying for a long time, not just the last few days, to get Corbett or Jimenez to answer these questions. I have also been listening to insulting, disparaging remarks, by ANCAPs, for quite a while, on a consistent basis, and I would like to move the conversation forward.

    I’m sorry if you think my comments are overboard or think that the USSR was the ultimate form of public government. I don’t. It was obviously corrupted by private interests. Inside and outside private interests. Do you think they had free and fair elections? Free and fair trade?

    Government exists and will always exist. Individualism is fallacious. It’s irrational. It’s illogical. Not just different. It’s a lie that has sold us genocide after genocide. It’s the basis for American Exceptionalism, Manifest Destiny, John Wayne, Coca Cola, and every lie that we are told will make us self-sufficient heroes who don’t let compassion get in our way.

    Is that really what you see? No respect?

  4. I don’t think the question is government or no government. I think it is public or private.

    Would you please explain to me what a no government situation looks like? Have you seen what the ANCAPs are suggesting?

    I see this reality show as an effort to placate resistance to tyranny. I hope the interviewer and even the guest don’t see it that way. But I am hoping they will.

    BTW, they want $50k for episodes 3-6. I’m curious about how 1-3 were funded. Just curious. Of course I applaud efforts of self-sacrifice for a cause. But I am beginning to look for who’s funding this individualism movement. I see Mises as a big source and they’re getting some big donations. Do you think that, if it’s a possibility that the oligarchy is promoting this movement, it’s rational to find out about it?

  5. I agree with Xicha 100%, as usual. All I’m going to say is that this anarchist hippie crap first became popular in the 60’s. It was a great way to get people to give up the fight against the tyrants that hijacked their government. Nothing has changed from then until now.

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