BFP EyeOpener Report- The Final Stage of Erdogan’s Takedown?

Sibel Edmonds Explains the Erdogan Takedown

Sibel Edmonds of BoilingFrogsPost.com joins us once again to discuss the ongoing “reverse engineering” of Erdogan by the NATO/CIA/Kurdish/Israeli/Russian forces that oppose him. We talk about the hypocritical and nearly-unanimous coverage of Erdogan’s abuses and how and why this narrative is converging now to finish the US/NATO task of removing him from office to usher in a more pliable puppet.

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  1. Come on people- why so passive and quiet?! There are tons of comments/discussions going on @ Corbett YouTube channel … I haven’t heard (read) a peep from you guys (and ladies). This is a very important/current topic- so add your voices.

    • I listened in the car while doing my Christmas shopping this evening, but I need to listen again for sure

      • Ok, read the comments on Corbett’s site, and this really stood out…
        ” I think you overdo it in regards to Putin. The Russian entry into Syria saved it from turning into another Libya. He has also exposed the criminality of NATO and other States in regards to the financing of ISIS. These are all positive outcomes.”
        I don’t know what to make of that. Is Syria safe from becoming another Libya? Has Putin successfully exposed crimes of NATO to anyone, really? And what is up with the seemingly quiet response to the shoot down of the Russian plane by Turkey, and the very brief play time that seemed to really get in the msm?
        Putin says Erdogan’s family is linked to the purchasing of ISIS oil, the US turns around with msm reports of Assad buying ISIS oil. Is it all because now is the time to throw Erdogan under the bus, and both the US and Russia agree on that? Oh, and Israel too?
        What really disgusts me (beyond all the death and ‘collateral damage’) is US government figures, etc, accepting bribes. If they aren’t dirty enough to blackmail, they’re weak enough to accept bribery. Either way, they’re owned.
        On a positive note, I saw excited comments for the new project on Corbett’s site along with the Putin defending!

    • I am hoping you will see this.

      WTF is up with you and PCR? I think you two should have debate heare and on his site and hopefully rectify this situation. It is good to speak plainly, but not in the fashion of an insulting wall fly. This must be dealt with head on.

      http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/12/23/presstitute-ranks-expand/

  2. I watch. I wait. I wonder. The situation is fluid. Oligarchical money has no border. The Orwellian overview is active. Where is Israel as Erdogan fails? RT is RT. No matter how cynical I get, you help me keep up ( apologies to Lilly T). John Kirby teaches me many things about disinformation. The traffic is hell. The grandchildren are wonderful.

  3. Ok, bit thrown by the very positive note at the end. Ha! Very much looking forward to it and good to see you starting to beam and twinkle when you speak about it at the end. For sure exhausting is no exaggeration so it’s gladdening to see that spirit and smile!

    Back to Erdogan and the subject of the podcast. I can’t but agree with the analysis of the situation. Think you’re right on the money as they say. Especially when they’re start touting human rights abuses and all that we all should know whats up. Same with his corruption and the smuggling business. C’mon now, are we really going to pretend this is the crux of whats been going on? Turkey and Erdogan as the bad guys and ignoring the knee deep river of blood and complicity ‘we’ are standing in ourselves?

    That said, on an emotional level I do feel a certain amount of schadenfreude (gorgeous German language again). Here in the Netherlands we have sort of a stock phrase when mobsters and criminals liquidate their own. In English it would roughly translate to “settlement of an criminal account”. So whenever there’s been a murder or shooting among organized crime the police and media use this phrase to distinguish it from other types of violence. The public reaction always has this element of schadenfreude. Murderers killing each other. If not spoken aloud it’s at least thought; good riddance and by all means, please continue whacking each other. Speaking for myself, it’s the sentiment I feel towards Erdogan and him being singled out here. Purely on a emotional level.

    The same goes pretty much for Putin. He’s been discussed here before on BFP and my mildest characterization of Putin is him being a pragmatist. I never harbored much illusions beyond that. Can’t remember if it was a Rothschild owned yacht or villa he and Berlusconi were partying at the time, but it was in his early years and that pretty much settled it for me. In the Great Game I tend to favor his actions when it looks like he’s spoiling some of the Empire’s agenda’s. Like in Syria. I really detest how they’ve so deliberately and callously torn this country apart. Not out of sympathy for Assad (former CIA black site host) but for the ordinary people who have payed the price. So when Russia came in and seemed to upset the agenda one can feel a kinda of satisfaction at a certain level. When they drop a few bombs on western trained, armed, equipped, funded mercenaries it’s a bit of revenge by proxy.

    Though I do sometimes express these emotional based sentiments I do so knowing full well they’re emotional based. One should be aware to keep such all to human but very subjective feelings separated from objective analysis and final words, as they have no place there. Very much like James said, there are no good guys when it comes to geopolitics. Neither are there hero’s or saviours. And the hatred towards one party shouldn’t make a saint of another. We humans like to simplify the world into black and white, good and evil. We should be aware of this tendency to prevent getting caught up in it and being played like pawns.

  4. The Kurd’s and the Sami’s…
    North to South..
    Are Used.
    Clear to Me…
    Over and over Again.
    http://www.samer.se/2137
    I love Persians Cat’s..
    Whit long Claw’s.
    And here in Scandinavia…
    Nato Would Love To…
    Sweden to Join Nato…!
    ( Anders Fogh Rasmussen to Jens Stoltenberg )…!
    Denmark to Norway…?
    Hmmm.
    They Know…
    They Do…
    Poor Little People’s are in that War.
    I can not speak for Russia…Or…Usa…
    ( Uk France…Germany..Denmark..)..Whatever…!
    There is one Thing I know…
    Where ever We Are..
    We have to make a stand.
    I am just a little Islander…!
    What do I know about Big City Life…?
    Best Regards
    Jens and Bornholm.

  5. albatross0612 says:

    Back in 2002-2003 I was part of a upper lever unit in the Marine Corps in the Operations section, a small section was to go to Turkey to link up with Kurdish forces to create a Northern Flank into Iraq while the main force was staged in Kuwait, that never happened I believe why Sibel discussed in her Gladio B series with James Corbett. Later that year after the Iraq invasion Turkey bombed Kurdish factions in Northern Iraq, people we were to align with. I was very young then, well trained, I knew i was looking out of a bigger window then the majority of the public, I think I understood things up to a certain logic. What I have learned since then is that there are other logic’s we are not even aware of, we never have the big picture. What I also learned is that the people looking out of bigger windows think extremely long range, the bigger the window the farther out their goals are set out. I think if I’m still making any sense is we need better answers to longer range questions. Is Russia/China a foreseeable enemy, Is Putin an enemy or someone already compromised by the west? Will the resource wars of the future be State vs State or Region vs Region through proxy? Putin may be wickedly corrupt but I don’t think any more than the Politicians in the USA or China or anywhere else. I can understand the system here in the U.S. I can see how Defense Companies intersect with the Military or Academia or Media, I cant see those things in Russia its beyond my scope whether because of language or access to how the system works in that country. I think this is part of the fascination with Putin lately, he is the apex of what we have come to understand as Russia. So is NATO going to sacrifice Erdogan? They certainly wont give up any influence in Turkey, i see Assad going before him.

    Another small observation I can take from this great podcast in the “things that always stay the same” category is that a lot of world players are always educated in the west. (Former Turkish PM, Assad, Kalid Sheik Mohammed, ect….)

  6. James Fordham says:

    As far as Putin is concerned, of all the world “leaders” , he seems to be the only adult in the room. The central issue of our times is the defeat of globalized shock doctrine racist capitalism, aka the Washington consensus. At this time, it seems that Russia and China, for all their faults evils, are, in the short term, the only viable force of opposition. Nationalism, for all its bloody history, seems to be, at this point, the most viable antidote to globalized corporatism, although even this is not certain. I think that even for all of Putin’s posturing, that his role in the world and in Russia’s present situation has been thrust upon him. He has to defend Russia as a sovereign and unitary nation against the threat of western backed subversion and destabilization.
    As far as the ” Putin worship” of some of the western based bloggers and analysts, such as Paul Craig Roberts, Mike Whitney, and others, desperate in the face of a seemingly all powerful and increasingly psychopathic wall street based imperial elite, it is natural to look for some rational and righteous leader on the world stage. We can only hope, on the short term, that Russia’s and Putin’s actions will have an effect in bringing some stability and peace to the world.
    In the world today, the USA and Russia are the two most militarized nations. The USA is militarized by choice. Russia is militarized by necessity.
    An alternative scenario in all this is that this conflict with Russia and Putin is just a giant scripted kabuki play put on for the sake of the US military industrial complex.
    jim

  7. stevan topping says:

    For what it’s worth. Erdogan and ‘The Green Lights’ (Saddam/Kuwait) to do whatever they tell him to do.
    Or the ‘Amber Lights’ (WW1) Russia, we will give you your warm water port in the Med via Turkey, just
    hang fire, sit back and and let us fail to do it on purpose. Or the ‘Red Lights.’ Just follow our
    instruction or for that matter don’t and follow the consequences anyway. Lots of lights.
    We have the multifaceted mini means toward mini ends snowballing toward the ultimate goal. The MUMMY &
    DADDY of engineered ends. When chaos is a template, it all helps, no matter how it unfurls.
    Unless we take action, however small. We all know this.
    Who remains unscathed throughout? I enjoyed Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya’s current three part (so far)
    article. With a big shout out to actors and groups that always manage to remain protected. They do
    get to call a vast amount of shots. For me , the no good guys are jockeying for position with regards
    the ‘Means to an END.’ The bit part players pocketing and getting away with what they can, while they
    can.
    Here in Australia they already rolled out a tried and tested Police State, for the First Nations people.
    How many decades have they been refining and honing that one with ever greater detail? Good practise.
    We are well placed for the future shock/s and the inforgiving future they want to roll out.

    I was listening to 98.9fm in Queensland, a platform for articulate and educated discussion. One of the
    speakers indicated with words to the effect, that they would rather have an audience of one hundered
    informed guests, than one thousand uninformed guests. For me, if you want to have a chance of making
    real change, you need to strike a happy medium across the spectrum of uninformed to informed and all the
    different levels inbetween. It reminds me of David Icke (Integrity, hardworking, dedicated) putting it
    all out there. The trolling like a scene from a matrix movie.

    The upcoming BFP media platform is an exciting prospect. Fantastic. Support it. Enjoy the holidays,
    otherwise may your experience give you everything you require. I am lucky to be given the opportunity
    to enjoy my kids reaction on Christmas Day. Have a good one.

  8. Sibel,

    I appreciate your perspective, having lived under various US installed puppets in Turkey, that while it’s not a matter of saying Erdogan has been “good” by any means, it’s worth mentioning that he’s been better (in relative terms) than his predecessors. I recall his reaction to the Israeli raid of the “Freedom Flotilla”, bound for Gaza, where I believe nine Turkish nationals and an American were essentially assassinated in international waters for daring to defy Israel’s blockade. Complaints from Middle Eastern allies over Israel’s blank check for provocation and actions that other NATO members would never even dream of committing has been commonplace for decades, but do you remember that Netanyahu was actually forced to apologize for the raid? It’s sort of pathetic that this is remarkable, but the significance wasn’t lost on me at the time and I’m certainly sure it wasn’t on the side of public opinion within Turkey.

    Here’s one of the difficult things: it always becomes challenging to evaluate how bad various “leaders” are in ‘relative’ terms. At this point in US politics I think this is more or less the way that the illusion of ‘Democracy’ works; that the “debate” is on the one to five percent of what’s actually different between the two parties, vs the 95-99% which is absolutely the same, but is this the case as much so in other countries who have even less real choice? I don’t know enough about the history of Turkish politics, but it does seem like Erdogan garnered a certain amount of legitimate public support by doing some (again), at least relatively positive measures. I recall you mentioning other public policies which surprised and moderately impressed you on your recent visit to Turkey, such as the Islamic banking concept.

    Still, it’s always so hard to point out pros with any of these “leaders” without a great deal of self consciousness (which appears to be a lacking ingredient in much of the analysis in the alt-media at the moment). One has to find the balance between making note of these relative positives without crossing the boundaries into ignoring the roughly 95-99% percent of what they’re doing which is criminal.

    As noted this factor has been front and center with Putin and the alt-media’s pleasure at seeing Putin “stick it to US/NATO”. While I’ll be the first to admit that there’s a certain amount of satisfaction I get hearing the obvious stated about US/NATO’s sponsoring ISIS for example, when Western media is forced (with great indignation) to report on it publicly, clearly we’ve witnessed that the allure of this form of ’sticking it to the West’ has lead to lapse of judgement in much of the alt-media, where Putin is being elevated to an almost heroic status, which ultimately only serves the RT narrative where Putin is something like the Russian James Bond; shirtless, fearlessly attacking a wild bear that’s been terrorizing a local village, jumping on its back and breaking its neck with his bare hands, before slipping back into a stylish suit and stopping to pick up a Russian supermodel in his limo, while effortlessly making tough foreign policy decisions on the way there over the phone… (A side note on this machismo Putin worship, there’s a funny mini-documentary, which talks about the making of a major pop music hit “A Man Like Putin”, the song had me laughing for weeks 😉 )

    Like I said, I appreciate hearing Putin state the obvious about US/NATO policy and in some ways I’m thankful that his diplomatic skills appear to have been advantageous (at least for now) in not leading us towards world war three, based on the kinds of provocations that have taken place. Still, I don’t forget for a moment what kind of revolting slime bags Putin and the Russian political oligarchy he represents are really about and it seems like many in the alt-media are failing to find the balance and the larger strategic context in which Putin is ultimately acting as a prime functionary.

    It seems like my previous comment about the Turkish MP’s “revelations” as a “whistleblower” (aka the ‘Snowden factor’) has been part of the Turkish domestic campaign to discredit Erdogan. I also suspect that this bizarre sort of ‘unified front’, seemingly between Russia and US/NATO, are one of the aspects that came out of the intense talks between Obama and Putin in Paris. Whether or not Russia’s strikes on ISIS are a part of this I don’t know, but my impression for a long time, generally speaking, has been that for all the tough talk, Russia, since the fall of the Soviet Union, has always had its eyes on finding a seat at the “grownups table” geopolitically and I suspect a lot of Putin’s nationalist rhetoric has more to do with covering his ass with respect to real Russian ultra nationalists, who probably see Putin as a fraud and resent his pandering towards the sort of Westernized hyper capitalism which disrupted the elevated social status many of the military and government elites enjoyed before all of this was uprooted in the early nineties.

    Anyway, a great podcast and a helpful and timely update. Thanks, Sibel. Your expertise and analysis are always priceless and your energy and enthusiasm has me looking toward the new year with a sense of optimism about challenging the narrative in a way and on a scale which has yet to be done. I have the utmost confidence in your capabilities and capacity to lead the charge. I can promise you that you won’t find yourself alone one the battlefield. (Sorry for the Braveheart/Sports drama metaphors, it’s just the first thing that came to mind 😉 ) Good to “see” you and hope you’re finding a sense of peace of mind as you juggle the moving parts behind the scene. Looking forward to the updates.

    As alway, much respect =]
    ~Benny

    • Sorry, I have to just post a link to that music video (with the subtitles of course): One Like Putin. Maybe it’s childish on my part, but it still cracks me up. One of the funny parts, if I remember correctly, with that documentary on the making of the video, was that the person who actually did the music and put the project together did it as a bet that he could make a pop hit off that sort of nationalist garbage. I don’t think he did it out of any respect for Putin, more just acknowledging that people are always suckers for that sort of nationalist koolaid.

  9. I’m excited about the new concept Sibel has been working on and I will continue to contribute as much as I can. But I gotta tell her, Scott Horton at scotthorton.org has his almost daily podcasts and he has 1 minute commercials here and there for things that are not evil, not big corporate brands and everything, + donations from fans. He has some business connections but its tiny small business connections, like he’s promoting somebody who makes political bumper stickers. Otherwise the guy is totally free, hell he’s once told how he was on LSD about 15 years ago with a black friend in Texas of all places, (Austin is “blue” spot in Texas but, it’s still texas”, his friend had about 4 oz of marijuana in his front pocket of his jacket. And with the dilated pupils that wouldn’t quit from the LSD they had been on,, had his black friend been the one driving, he’s right, the cop would have either shot him right in the face, because Sovereign Immunity, or they would have ended up in prison. But cos Scott is whites the cops just said “you 2 get the hell away from here”. When they were sitting in front of a lake on a rock, but it wasn’t part of the official park so they had to leave the omg non-governmental part of nature in the outskirts of Austin.

    Anyway, yeah, you’re right, they’re rare, and i’m not getting money for advertising him either, but he gets very good people to interview, some you Sibel or James have interviewed in the past too.

  10. Also, I mean, Whatever else Erdogan has been doing…NATO does not agree with his shooting at Russian fighter/bombers thing, that’s for sure. And to see someone man enough (although maybe it was just some low leveled guy who acted according to procedure, but it really is a squiggly border in the area where Russian fighter was. I do not believe Turkey’s “17 warnings in 30 seconds” or whatever BS explanation.

  11. ralphie4me says:

    I was very disappointed that you, SE, didn’t provide an analysis of Russia’s role in Syria vis a vis Turkey and Israel.

    Dissing RT was a waste of time. We know its propaganda, and frankly, it’s about time the Russians improved their act. Putin is a politician? Really?? Gee, who knew? He gets paid and hangs out with and protects his cronies? Well damn, SE, will wonders never cease!? As for his wealth, if you have credible evidence show us. “I saw some oligarch yachts” and “I know Putin is worth hundreds of millions” is not a worthy offering from you. No one I am aware of has demonstrated the degree to which Putin has enriched himself. If you got it, flaunt it. If not don’t waste time on it.

    I offer the above as a financial supporter of your site and as someone who depends on your true journalist skills, considerable skills, skills you hardly tapped in knocking RT and Putin.

    There are very important issues to be addressed, including Israel’s role in this war in Syriac. Russia’s Putin IS addressing serious issues–such as the need to observe whatever is left of “international law” and the concept of sovereignty. Of course, Russia can be expected to defend what it defines to be its national interests. Where that involves standing up to the Anglo/American/Zionist cabal I can’t help but be supportive of current Russian initiatives. No, I don’t think any nation in this Turkish/Syriac mess has my interests in mind and probably never will.

    Please don’t waste the considerable time and effort you (and others) are putting into your new iteration by ranting about the existence of politicians, propaganda and how oligarchs the world over frolic with their money. Be the best journalist you can be and focus, focus, focus on analysis that has explanatory power. That’s what I need from you.

    • ralphie4me,

      I think the main thrust of the points about RT and many of the others who are singing Putin’s praise is the fact that they’re getting caught up in this need for a “hero” syndrome. In all honesty, I’ve mentioned from time to time that I get a certain amount of satisfaction out of hearing Putin state plainly what the US/NATO policies vis a vis ISIS and Syria are and I’ve also admitted that the gulf between his diplomatic maneuvering skills have made figures like John Kerry and Obama look even more foolish than they do most of the time, but this is where the “praise” (if you want to call it that) ends.

      Putin is no different than any of the US/NATO frauds that we discuss here and what Sibel and James seem to be expressing is an overwhelming level of disappointment with many people who frankly should know better being among the ranks of those who more or less meet or surpass our low expectations we have of figures in the alt-media (never mind the msm) in failing to recognize or resist the allure of the pro-Putin propaganda. Putin is not doing what he’s doing out of some kind of altruistic rationale, but he’s been riding high on that propaganda, where he’s the tough guy standing up to the West and “telling it like it is”, with RT in particular taking the Putin dick riding to pornographic proportions.

      Maybe the rebuke here seems a bit harsh, but it’s part of a wake up call that people, especially those who should know better, need to stop fooling themselves that Putin represents some sort of “good” on a geopolitical scale. Personally, I find some of Russia’s actions “preferable” to those of US/NATO actions, but only in a manner comparable to having to take a dramatic pay cut and work more hours at a job might be “preferable” to being fired. I’m not going to take the latter as cause to praise my manager for standing up for the workers when both policies were bad and unnecessary. To me the analysis represented here does represent a balanced viewpoint and perhaps the harshness feels like a necessity in a time where that “balance” has been totally undermined in the pro-Putin propaganda. As I stated in my previous comment, relativity does matter and should be taken into account in any form of analysis, but as soon as that crosses the threshold of elevating any of these corrupt figures to a status worthy of praise in any sort of general terms, this analysis has entered the realm of propaganda which ultimately leads us astray.

      This is my take anyway, for what it’s worth…

      • ralphie4me says:

        Thanks for your response. It’s well considered.

        The statements “Putin is no different than any of the US/NATO frauds that we discuss here” and “To me the analysis represented here does represent a balanced viewpoint” does not represent a balanced analysis. The Russians are providing crucial military assistance to the Assad regime (yes, he’s Russia’s bastard and has been for a long time) and are fighting what amounts to a CIA army. I take that to be in Russia’s perceived national interests and it may even serve larger–geopolitcally significant–interests. I might be wrong and I’d like to hear from SE, with her unique skills and experience why, if she thinks that’s wrong. Analysis of that is what I will put my money behind.

        I know many people whose political activism here in the US does not amount to being political, e.g., “Sanders for president.” Being political means acting on an analysis of where power resides and how to change that if we want power to be exercised for different ends. Sometimes it’s even based on sound ethical principles. Finding fault with everyone in the political sphere is useless if additionally it lacks an analysis without explanatory power for those of us who want to be actors. That’s why I complained that “SE. . . didn’t provide an analysis of Russia’s role in Syria vis a vis Turkey and Israel.” Time spent ranting about hero worship and oligarchs is time wasted. I need good journalism, not journalism that smacks of a holier-than-thou attitude.

  12. albatross0612 says:

    Erdogan just talked a desperat man from jumping off bridge and commiting suicide, aka the public relations campaign trail.

  13. “The Pagan/MBD/Stratfor operatives are much more sophisticated about social change than the activists they oppose, they have limitless resources at their disposal, and their goal is relatively simple: make sure that ultimately the activists fail to win fundamental reforms,” [he said.] “Duchin and Mongoven were ruthless, and I think they were often amused by the naivete, egotism, antics and failures of activists they routinely fooled and defeated. Ultimately, this is war, and the best warriors will win.” Steve Horn | July 29, 2013

  14. Ronald Orovitz says:

    Is Webster Tarpley perhaps coming round to Sibel’s skepticism concerning Putin?…. http://tarpley.net/failure-to-close-jarablus-corridor-is-shame-of-entire-international-community/

  15. ralphie4me says:

    W. Tarpley is a fine historian (check out “Against Oligarchy” on his website) but a really awful analyst of contemporary events.
    See: “Webster Tarpley gives his opinion about SYRIZA’s win in Greek European elections (25-5-2014)”

    1:18 min

  16. Erdogan sadly will not be taken down anytime soon. He is too useful a tool and too intricately involved with events such as the gold transfers with Iran that enriched him and Saudi elements in violation sactions on Iran. He is intricately involved thanx to Russias ability to expose the entire Nato charade and literal turning a blind eye to isis one billion a year oil trade..with 40 countries..processed in various points including Texas…not to mention stolen artifacts and as of late organ harvesting ala Chinese organ express.
    Furthermore he is ctitical also in continuing the second fron in Ukraine .
    excerpts are from Voltaire..
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article189631.html

    It’s clear that everyone is dreaming – illegitimate President Massoud Barzani believes that no-one will question his annexation of the oil fields of Kirkuk and the Sinjar mountains – the leader of the Syrian Kurds, Saleh Muslim, imagines that he will soon be President of an internationally-recognised pseudo-Kurdistan – and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan presumes that the Arabs of Mosul long to be liberated and governed by the Turks, as they were under the Ottoman Empire.

    Furthermore, in Ukraine, Turkey has deployed the International Islamist Brigade that it officially created last August. These jihadists, who were extracted from the Syrian theatre, were divided into two groups as soon as they arrived in Kherson. Most of them went to fight in Donbass with the Cheikh Manour and Djokhar Doudaïev Brigades, while the best elements were infiltrated into Russia in order to sabotage the Crimean economy, where they managed to cut all electricity to the Republic for 48 hours.

    Saudi Arabia united its mercenaries in Riyadh in order to constitute a delegation in readiness for the next round of negotiations organised by the NATO Director of Political Affairs, US neo-Conservative Jeffrey Feltman.

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article189161.html
    The colonisation of Northern Syria is an old Israeli project linked to the development of missile weaponry. It calls for the creation of an independent state in the north of the country in order to control Syria from behind, just as Israel had created the state of Southern Sudan in 2011, to control Egypt from behind.

    This Israeli project was taken up again by France and gave rise, in 2011, to a secret treaty signed by Alain Juppé and Ahmet Davutoglu.

    Turkey agreed that this new state would be governed by the Kurdish minority and that Ankara would be allowed to expel the PKK there, thus affirming Turkish supremacy in their own country.

    In September 2013, the Pentagon published a new map of the division of the region designed by Robin Wright. This map included the creation of Daesh’s Islamic Emirate and the creation of a new « Kurdistan » in the Arab territories of Syria.

    In mid-October 2015, in reaction to the Russian campaign against the jihadists, the CIA created the « Syrian Democratic Forces », presented as an alliance between the Syrian Kurds and the « rebels ». In actual fact, the SDF is simply a new label for the YPG (People’s Protection Units, the Kurdish forces who until then had been loyal to Damascus) with the addition of a few Arabs to act as a front.

    so yes..we wont read this on MSM..but the implications are clear..Nato has no intention of cooperating with or sharing info with the USm which is doing incredible contortions explaining their total ignoring of Isis..while rearranging the geopolitical map of the ME in concert with Turkey and Israel. Erdogan is not stupid..and certainly not Russia, which had provided a gentlema’ns way out, and instead he gets more sanctions added.
    .
    We must keep removing the curtains as best we can until the audience sees beyond the actors..all the way to the brick wall at the back of the stage.

  17. Lawrence Shea says:

    Regardless of whether the centralized authority of any state is capitalist, monarchist, or socialist; theocratic, democratic, or autocratic; a republic or a dictatorship; or whatever other form of centralized government there may be – the authority of a centralized state always operates in a similar fashion to a criminal organization, This is because power is both a mesmerizing and corrupting force. The centralized authority of a state acts just like a mafia, when it grants itself the power to be the decider for everyone who falls under its governance. In this criminal endeavor the state authority is backed and controlled by those who hold the power of the purse over the state.

    Since we are all human and thus subject to the all of the vagaries of our humanity, we, the people, have a marked tendency to go along with, or else are forced to go along with, the agenda that these governing gangsters set for the rest of us. We are not privy to their well-kept state secrets nor are we privy to the machinations of the financial fraudsters who are ordering their compliant state crime bosses around.

    Furthermore, we can never really know what is going on behind the scenes or who is actually calling what shots and when. At best we can only speculate on the past experience of evidence-based history. DARPA and its CIA analogue IARPA are not putting out any crucial information bulletins about their current or future advanced research projects, and Putin claims that Russia has a better DARPA than the USA has. Beside all of this, the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers aren’t telegraphing their next moves.

    We do know that full-spectrum world domination, which includes world government, and the control of natural resources is a plutocratic goal along with a reduced and manageable world population, and we also know that this agenda will create far more losers than winners. Let us hope that a horrific nuclear war of extinction, will not occur either by accident or by design.

    In my opinion, it is priggish and naïve to think that Vladmir Putin and his cronies are any better or any worse than the nasty and evil royal families of the UK and the Netherlands, or the greedy, power-hungry, mass-murdering plutocrats who control the American Empire and NATO. Are the oligarchs that run China any better or worse than those who run Turkey, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Azerbaijan or Israel? State actors like any other individuals should be judged on how much good they do for humanity and the planet, as well as on how little the harm they do.

    All state rulers rule at the pleasure of the amoral plutocrats whom they serve. Who placed the frog in the pot of water and then turned on the heat and brought it to a slow boil? Obviously, it was someone who was more intelligent and more powerful than the frog. Father greed will never cease attempting to make mother nature subservient to his ambition to dominate her and her resources. After all, Pluto still holds Persephone hostage, although she is occasionally furloughed.

    • Very eloquently stated, Lawrence. It would be interesting to know whether there are places, past or present, where the general feeling amongst society was that things were at least relatively fair and equitable. “Isms” and governmental structures are ultimately corrupted by the flaws of humanity. My guess is that little has changed since we’ve ventured beyond our most primitive incarnations of civilization. Various revolutions and forms of governance arguably experience some form of “progress” at the beginning, but these corrupting forces of human nature seem to have a way of capturing the flag and stripping any of this progress away. Yet, stripped of decency, it still seems to be in our nature to rally around the flag even when it’s painfully clear that the emperor wears no clothes. I guess the failure of imagination is lack of ability on our parts to recognize the naked truth remains more or less unchanged no matter how radically different the attire appears.

      I don’t have any answers to these questions, but maybe just remembering to ask them is the best any of us can offer. Who knows…

  18. albatross0612 says:

    It looks like Erdogan is getting what he want to start his war.

  19. ralphie4me says:

    Is Putin incorruptible? U.S. insider’s view of the Russian president’s character and his country’s transformation

    (read the comments following the article as well)

    http://www.sott.net/article/278407-Is-Putin-incorruptible-US-insiders-view-of-the-Russian-presidents-character-and-his-countrys-transformation#comment108960

  20. Ronald Orovitz says:

    Well, I’m happy to see that Serhat Koksal is still active. His latest, earlier this year: The performance gezilla versus isistanbul smashes against l ‘” Empire nattomano “, The “Dreamperialist Ottoman project”, “Gezilla versus golden nattoman”. live at transmediale:

    I had the immense pleasure of hosting his 2/5 BZ performance at the historic Southgate House in Newport KY when he toured the U.S. back in 2004…? Yes, as I recall, it was election season, in which he took great interest.

    • Ronald Orovitz says:

      He is still able to challenge the authorities, but not without casualty -see the interview quote at the beginning of this video…

      -followed by original Gezi Park protest footage… Now that is what you call guerrilla… I mean “gezilla” journalism!

    • Ronald Orovitz says:

      In other words… you’re on another planet Erdogan…

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